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Quote from sofreeadmin on February 20, 2018, 2:23 pm

Are you good without gods?

I prefer to let others do the evaluating/judging, but in my opinion I'm better without "God." "God" has this way of not answering my questions, or of not being time-sensitive, or of not caring about my needs while he's caring for the needs of others. I used to be a Christian and, when discerning "God's" will, most of the time I found myself relying on the interpretation of other humans. In retrospect, I realize that interpretation could be seen as being the human interpretation's will more than that of a divine entity's.

I am more familiar with Christianity and its deities, sacred texts, and theology than other religions so that is the perspective I speak from and assume it has approximate equivalents in other religions.

Jesus: Humans are Good

As Jesus says in the Bible (Matt. 7:11), we humans know how to give good gifts to our children. That means he thinks we must be good.

Yes, I know, I skipped some words; Jesus actually says we are evil but despite being evil we know how to give good gifts. However, a few verses later (Matt. 7:16-20) he says we are known by our fruits (aka deeds, behaviour). Thus, if we know how to give good gifts, I conclude he is saying we are pretty good humans.

For your interest, here is the entire verse of Matt. 7:11:

 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!

As stated above, in my experience, God is not all that capable of giving good gifts. The problem, as I see it, is that in order to give good gifts an entity must exist; if you don't exist it is awfully hard to give anything. But that's a bit off-topic. Sorry.